Re: Bug report: the other side

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John Summerfield wrote:
Arne Chr. Jorgensen wrote:
While I worked with supply of info requested from me, I included a question of the opinion from the person working on the case. Haven't received anything yet, but pass the question here, as I got the impression that some of you
have spent some time on the other side of the desk.

Perhaps some would be willing to write a few words about how that is.
It probably difficult, as - like in my own case - the better info I supply, the easier it will be for the person handling the case.

Remember you have the only eyes on the problem. It's really important you try to solve the problem yourself. If I can't see that you have tried, I will still ignore you. Unless your subject line looks like something interesting to me, and over time the number of fresh new problems has diminished somewhat.

I think this is a really important point. Better information supplied at the first attempt can make a very big difference, and its well worth the extra 5 minutes it could take to gather a few details.

When you send an email to a list, post a bug report, or post to a forum, there is significant lag time before someone able to help solve the issue even sees the post. If they need to ask a simple question right away, that really impacts things. If you include what info you can find out by yourself, the real solution to the problem may be the first feedback you get, ultimately saving you AND the others on the list time.

Anything that you can add to a bug report should be added, even if you think it is probably not very useful. Backtraces, error output, versions of packages (both for the package with the bug and other packages it depends on, has extra features from, etc). For instance reporting a bug with a sound player, the report should include the kernel, audio subsystem (pulse, oss, arts), and other major libraries (gstreamer, mono, the decode library in use).

I'm certainly guilty of reporting bugs with half the info I just suggested.. but reporting them does take a very real effort. Sometimes its better to report one or two bugs as well as possible than it is to report the 10-20 bugs you just noticed with useless, unsolvable reports that will sit as NEW for a year.

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