On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 13:09, sean wrote: > More Fedora users should be considering carefully their real 3d needs > and tune their graphics purchases to those supported out of the box > by Fedora. Those stuck with cards that need binary drivers for > 3d graphics, will just have to deal with the bumps in the road; there's > nothing on the horizon that suggests life is going to get easier. And that mythical 3D card would be? I just love this headlong rush toward a 3D desktop while everyone sticks their fingers in their ears and hums real loud everytime someone observes that there currently exists ZERO supported hardware. I keep buying ATI in the hope that someday it will be supported but always install the proprietary driver after punching the reset button a few times. The free radeon driver & AMD have been trouble at least back to '00. But even when it doesn't lockup the machine it can't (as of FC5t3) run most of the GL xscreensaver hacks correctly. Nvidia is never going to be supported on Fedora. Some old obsolete Matrox stuff is supported. A couple of low performance shared memory pieces of crap from Intel are supported, but aren't fast enough to be interesting, especially knowing this push for a 3D desktop will rapidly devolve into a pissing contest with Microsoft's Aero Glass over who can waste the most cycles on eyecandy. So pray tell, just what are Fedora users supposed to be buying? Both 3D desktop projects are buying Nvidia, so we know where they are in the Free/Unfree spectrum. btw, on RHEL it is even worse since it disables GL support in the radeon driver, probably because of the aforementioned stability issues. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list