Re: Stable vs. Release vs Devel Was: KDE update - no testing period?

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Hi


The problem is not that there are rapid upstream advances. The problem is that when things like udev, hal or xserver breaks it exceeds the experience level of a large segment of testers and users to recover from.

Here are my thoughts on what I think may help:
1. A daily blog from Redhat explaining how to get around today's oops. Something that is tided to that days build report and updated as the day goes along if the initial solution is wrong or some better workaround is found. Something which is as proactive as time allows. Perhaps with an RSS feed for that post.

The workarounds if any are posted and discussed in this list and fedora-devel list already. If anyone wishes to blog about them sign up in http://fedoraproject.org/people.


2. Tutorials in online documentation on how to:
- use the recovery CD
- how to boot into runlevel 3 to start x manually
- how to run a trace in Gnome and KDE
- how to build a exclude list for yum update based on rpm queries on your system - IE a trouble shooting guide specific to Fedora that keeps up with the changes in rawhide

Can you help with any of these?. Kindly get involved in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject. There are already several drafts and ideas you can help with and improve.

3. A utility that everyone runs and attaches the output from to their posts about bugs that captures your kernel version, default window manager and release level, your chipset, Video card, network card and other essential hardware info to speed debuging.

On progress. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Schedule

4. A rapid move to virtulization so rawhide is only run as a guest OS and nuked when badly broken unless you are an experienced kernel level developer with years of experience.

On progress. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tools/xen

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Rahul
Fedora Bug Triaging - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers

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