On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 16:06, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > End users arent mythical beings in Fedora. There are a whole lot of them > out there. The introduction of a option only meant for the test > releases can be a very basic post installation yum install \*. It doesnt > necessarily involve adding much more code unlike the options in the GA > releases. Ok, let me restate this to make sure I understand. To date, every Fedora Core or RHEL media set has included a very non-trivial number of uncatagorized packages not readily installable outside of an everything install. To even realize they are there requires a user to 1) know something as silly as this is happening and 2) know enough to do rpm -qip * on each of the CDs and wade through the output. Then, if we find things we want we are expected to either setup a local repo with the packages on the CDs, redownload packages via yum or enter RPM Dependency Hell. And this is being done to make things easier for 'end users' who are supposedly out there in great numbers, able to install Linux (hell, even create yum repos!) but lacking the literacy to read a warning notice. Sorry guys, defeaturing the install isn't the magic bullet to make Linux ready for granny. Granny couldn't install Windows either, which is why it comes preloaded. I know, I have had to help enough people run the XP installer when their machine gets infested to the point a reinstall is the only safe option. I don't think Fedora can or should be quite as simple as XP's. For example Disk Druid kicks XP's partitioning program square in the nads but it isn't simpler. -- John M. http://www.beau.org/~jmorris This post is 100% M$Free! Geekcode 3.1:GCS C+++ UL++++$ P++ L+++ W++ w--- Y++ b++ 5+++ R tv- e* r -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list