fre, 20 01 2006 kl. 09:03 -0800, skrev Jesse Keating: > The installer is changing how packages get installed. In order to move > forward and be able to handle such things as using Extras at install > time, or any other repo, the internal bits that install packages and > resolve deps had to be replaced. They've been replaced with yum. So > all the stuff that interacts with this has to change as well. I, for one, welcome my new installer overlords - I think it's a vast improvement over the traditional and welltested Anaconda versions. I'm quite sure Katz will have it hammered into shape come test3 > We did several smoke tests of test2 prior to sending it to the mirroring > system. Multiple installs on multiple hardware platforms, using > multiple install methods. Had we ran into something obviously wrong > like what you are seeing, we would have not shipped Test2 until it got > fixed. However we didn't and thus we shipped it. If people feel that such smoketesting is required, I would heartly encourage them to try doing a netinstall - the process is speedy (if one has a good connection) and it gives a great look at how the installer is coming along. > The PC market is very tough to satisfy. There are an infinite number of > combinations of hardware. There really isn't enough time ever to test > each and every one of these platforms before shipping a release, > especially a test release. We make a best effort at testing certain > platforms. The only way we can touch on more combinations is to release > software and let you, the community, test. If you run into bugs, GREAT! > File it and we'll try to fix it so that the next person using your > hardware won't run into the problem. For i386 I'm extremely impressed that I don't hit more bugs, considering the near infinite combinations of hardware out there and the decades of workarounds for maldesign and known broken behavior. I assume that everyone who hits a bug rather than retaining hatred and bile, will file a bug - how else would it go away, magic? > So while the bug(s) may seem obvious to you, unless your exact hardware > is sitting in my cube it isn't going to seem very obvious to me. I am a > bit hurt at the implication that we don't even bother to test our > release before we send it out the door. We do, and in fact we're > actively seeking to hire somebody to lead our Fedora QA efforts. If you > think you've got what it takes to lead a QA effort, and engage the > community to leverage community resources for QA efforts, please forward > me your resume. If only I had talent.. for now I'll settle for congratulating my buddy Jesse on a fine first release. FC5t2 is by far the best distro I have had my hands on lately. - David Nielsen -- Obligatory shameless blog plug - The GNOME commentary located at www.lovesunix.net/blog -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list