On 6/13/05, David Zeuthen <david@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun, 2005-06-12 at 21:51 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > > Certainly - and I know Dan and others are looking into this through > > > wpa_supplicant integration. Btw, we don't store the cached WEP keys in > > > the clear; we use gnome-keyring to encrypt it. > > > > It does not help you very much with that. I was talking about > > retrieving keys from ethernet packets _sniffed_ over a radio so how > > they are stored is hardly relevant. AFAIK you need big samples for > > those key breaking programs but the point is that with WEP you can > > collect long enough and a target has no way to check that this is > > happening. > > Of course. I'm aware of that. > > > > > It is hard to figure out what are preconditions for that, as > > > > NetworkManager carefuly avoids what could be taken for a > > > > documentation, > > > > > > Well, you know, the idea here is that things should just work out of the > > > box > > > > This assumption falls apart from what I, and an number of others, > > have seen so far. Yes, I wrote myself various things in > > "worksforme" category but I never tried to push them to the public > > as the best thing from a sliced bread. :-) > > Sigh. I've already described several times why this is difficult to get > right and I'm not going to repeat myself. Here's a question though; why > do you think that OS X only supports their own Airport wireless cards? This might be the key for Redhat. Honestly Redhat needs to team up with some hardware manufacturer and have a standard platform that will work out of the box. You really don't have to worry about this with servers today. But with desktop machines you need a standard supported platform that you can tell people 100% works out of the box. With Linux I have no idea what wireless card is the best wireless card to use? I would really like to just go to a website and know, OK this is what I need to buy for a supported wireless card ( I think the intel wireless card may be the best?!). > > David > > > -- > fedora-test-list mailing list > fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list >