On Sun, 2005-06-12 at 21:51 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> > Certainly - and I know Dan and others are looking into this through
> > wpa_supplicant integration. Btw, we don't store the cached WEP keys in
> > the clear; we use gnome-keyring to encrypt it.
>
> It does not help you very much with that. I was talking about
> retrieving keys from ethernet packets _sniffed_ over a radio so how
> they are stored is hardly relevant. AFAIK you need big samples for
> those key breaking programs but the point is that with WEP you can
> collect long enough and a target has no way to check that this is
> happening.
Of course. I'm aware of that.
> > > It is hard to figure out what are preconditions for that, as
> > > NetworkManager carefuly avoids what could be taken for a
> > > documentation,
> >
> > Well, you know, the idea here is that things should just work out of the
> > box
>
> This assumption falls apart from what I, and an number of others,
> have seen so far. Yes, I wrote myself various things in
> "worksforme" category but I never tried to push them to the public
> as the best thing from a sliced bread. :-)
Sigh. I've already described several times why this is difficult to get
right and I'm not going to repeat myself. Here's a question though; why
do you think that OS X only supports their own Airport wireless cards?
David