On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:51:11 -0500, Kyle Pointer wrote: > 4. At least on June 12, 2005 it is impossible to install xfce4 with YUM or up2date. > ( Not all the packages are there. ) Which ones are missing? Which repository did you install from? > 6. XMMS isn't in development or extras tree. This is false information. XMMS was last built for Extras FC4 on May 9th and is in the repository. Verify it with your web browser.