First off, let me caveat what follows by saying I installed FC4t2 in a VMware 4.5.2 virtual machine running under RHEL4. If the problems are VMware's fault, then please disregard. Otherwise... Unlike FC4t1, FC4t2 installed very unremarkably via NFS. There was one early screen where I had to jiggle the little mousie to get the [>Forward] button to uncloak, but after that things went very smoothly. I didn't run into any trouble until after the install was done, I'd rebooted, and completed Firstboot. The bright red RHN ball said I needed 466 new packages. When I started up2date and things proceeded to the screen where one check box will select all packages for updating, only the topmost package was automatically checked. And that darned missing [>Forward] button problem was back. This time no amount of mouse abuse would resurrect it. I tried updating up2date itself, but that didn't fix the problem. 'yum update' downloaded all new packages, but wouldn't install or upgrade them. I had to use rpm to manually install/upgrade them in small groups. Four packages (eclipse-ecj|jdt|pde and libswt3-gtk2) had installation problems with a library named libgcj.so.6.0.0. All four reported post- install scriptlet failures with exit code 123 (whatever that is). By the time I finished the first round of updates, another 61 packages had been posted to Development. I'll be glad when up2date is fixed. Bottom line: FC4t2 is installed, updated, and ready for testing. If I were a developer I'd examine eclipse very carefully. The latest rhn- applet is unaware of changes to the Development directory, but the broken up2date is. With that I can get by with rpm. -- Doc Robert G. (Doc) Savage, BSE(EE), CISSP, RHCE | Fairview Heights, IL RHEL/ES on Tyan S2468UGN w/3G, dual Athlon MP 2800+, 1.1T RAID5 "Perfection is the enemy of good enough." -- Admiral of the Fleet Sergei G. Gorshkov