Once upon a time, Timothy Murphy <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > As a matter of interest, how did you "fix" the computer remotely > if it did not boot? > I would not have thought the serial connection would be alive. Since this computer was not hooked to an IP power switch at the time, I had to have "remote hands" power cycle it for me. I then interrupted it during boot at the GRUB prompt to change the boot options (point at a different kernel and initrd and use different kernel options). > I find the arrogance of the Fedora team in failing to facilitate this minority > rather disturbing. Fedora Core also has dropped packages I like and use (as did RHL). I bitched about a few of them, but I did not insult the very people I wanted to see it my way. FC is also not about catering to every request; that way lies madness. GRUB works in the vast majority of cases and is more flexible than LILO. GRUB has a menu, which is much more "user-friendly" (especially to those that dual boot other OSes). GRUB allows easy changing of boot options at the menu (so for example while I may normally use "quiet" mode, I can strip it off for a single boot without having to edit a config file and re-install the boot loader). Since GRUB reads the filesystem at boot time (instead of boot-loader install time), copying or renaming a kernel/initrd or defragmenting (or even remaking) a filesystem causes no problems. > Incidentally, the interactive option in grub, which you praise, > could be greatly improved; > it is not at all clear how to use it. > With a little more thought it could be self-explanatory. It has some built-in help which describes enough for most things. > This hd(0,1) stuff is nonsense, for a start. Well, what do you want it to use? This is prior to boot, so /dev/hda is meaningless. How about "C:"? It is fairly straight-forward; hd0 is the first BIOS drive, hd1 is the second, (hd0,0) is the first partition on the first BIOS drive, etc. -- Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.