On Thu, 2005-14-04 at 21:43 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Guy Fraser <guy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > > On Wed, 2005-13-04 at 22:49 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > > > And how is that one bit different than if you use LILO? > > > > Err > > In other words, no answer. Wrong. It was to represent a sound. You are obviously set in your doctrine, it would not make a difference if LILO pages of information about the error, you would never agree that the documentation and error reporting of GRUB Legacy are overtly deficient. > > > > > Yes Grub has a command line mode. Big whoop, > > > > > > Yes, big whoop. Real servers are not always at hand and don't always > > > have a rescue disk available. With LILO you are stuck if there is a > > > problem during boot, while with GRUB you have a command line that you > > > can try some things (and work around different types of issues). > > > > FUD > > How is that FUD? I have given real world examples of why GRUB having a > command line should not be dismissed lightly. I've fixed non-booting > computers remotely with a serial console (at 115200, which LILO can't > do) at the GRUB prompt. The whole time I was having problems, nobody told me how to access this command line, you talk about. As mentioned before I kept getting Error 15. I seem to remember reading about the command line, but was never able to get into it. When does the command line become available before stage 1, 1.5, 2 or after stage 2, I believe Error 15 is generated during stage 2, but was never even told that by anyone who was willing to help. I really don't give half a toot, about the command line or 115200 baud console. It is of no interest to me. Any of the servers we have that require such access have hardware that provides those features. You use tsclient to access the hardware at 10MBps and can boot the system from images on a tftp server, or upload the image up to 2.88MB. We have test the system and were able to completely install an OS from scratch after spending about 5 minutes configuring the BIOS. We would never rely on GRUB to perform these tasks with what we have seen to date. > > -- > Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> > Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services > I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.