On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 17:58 -0700, Florin Andrei wrote: > On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 07:52 +0200, Roger Grosswiler wrote: > > > BUT: I found cyrus-imapd neither in core nor in extras! > > <sigh> An excellent IMAP server which solves the problem of server-side > filtering in an elegant fashion and can handle extreme loads, and it's > excluded from the distro. > > <shakes head in disbelief> Awe, come on now. I'm a cyrus-imapd bigot. I LOVE cyrus-imapd, despite some of it's (relatively minor, IMO) peculiarities. But even I understand (and frankly, agree with) it being excluded. Cyrus-imapd is a complex beast. Not on the level of Oracle, but when combined with all the components that make it the most useful (ldap, a web gui config tool, kerberos or hashed secrets, etc.) it comes close to MS Exchange, but makes you feel a lot less...*shudder*...dirty. (Yes, I know -- no integrated calendar.) Dovecot was introduced to rid the distro uw-imap (thankfully) and fills that role quite nicely (from what I've heard...I don't actually USE it). How do you configure cyrus-imapd to work with system accounts *out of the box* without any extra steps for the system administrator when adding accounts? It's probably doable, but just too darn complex and possibly a maintenance nightmare. I prefer a sealed mail server with multi-domain capability, so will likely always stick to cyrus-imapd, even if I have to revert to Simon Mater's (excellent) rpms like I did before it was included in the distro. No big deal, really. It seems to me that cyrus-imapd is most suitable for extras. I hope that that does happen. If no one picks it up (but it sounds like someone else might), then I might still consider being the maintainer, but I really don't think it's a big loss for Core. It's specialized enough (and independent enough -- i.e.: nothing depends on it), that adding it doesn't cause much pain. -- -Paul Iadonisi Senior System Administrator Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets