Hi, > I really only run kdm since I prefer kde to gnome, and if I run gdm I > cannot reboot/shutdown without logging out first. A minor thing but gets > a tad annoying eventually. > > If this can be made possible from gdm (perhaps it is and I've missed how > ?) I'm happy to use gdm. There was talk of creating a standard a while back for desktop <-> display manager interaction, but i don't think any traction came out of it. Probably the right way to approach it is teach kde about gdm's way of shutting down. --Ray