I currently have an i386 rawhide 'workstation' install... and for kicks i enabled the fc3 updates and fc3 base repos on that box( both yum and up2date) just to see if any packages from the fc3 repos looked 'newer' than the development tree. I found 16 rawhide packages as of today that look 'older' than their fc3 versions. This is just an FYI to anyone looking to upgrade from fc3 to rawhide(of fc4t1 when available) using yum or up2date or cli rpm (I don't know about if anaconda is affected). Someone probably needs to do a full rawhide install and try this again to get a full list of affected packages. Ideally we would want all the rawhide packages to look 'newer' than the fc3 version. Can this be addressed before fc4t1 is excreted? Affected packages as of feb 20 2005: Omni Omni-foomatic dhcpv6_client fedora-release (this might be due to a change back to noarch) gamin gamin-devel gamin-python (this one is a little touchy becuase of the switch to py2.4 in rawhide) hal-cups-utils iiimf-gnome-im-switcher iiimf-libs iiimf-libs-devel libpng libpng-devel libpng10 libpng10-devel sysklogd I'm also looking for a 'clever' way to test for this situation in general, 'clever' meaning not having to do a full rawhide install to do this sort of comparison. Anyone got any ideas? -jef