On Fri, 2005-01-21 at 14:23 -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > Rawhide eats babies. There is no truer statement. > Yes it does ... beware!!! Just because someone doesn't have problems on their particular system has no relevance to "your" system. > problems are fixed > primarily via bugreports not primarily with list discussion. However, an important step if you do not wish to search bugzilla for your particular problem. > > And I stand by my statement... I am greatly concerned about how > someone who has been using rawhide for multiple number of years hasn't > learned that these sort of packaging problems are common and that to > get them resolved is to get bugreports filed that maintainers are > going to see. This would indicate a failure of communication as to > rawhide's goals and how to use rawhide in a responsible manner to > generate useful feedback to package maintainers. Correct, but none the less, this will continue to happen. Nothing we can do? Maybe modify the email trailer to link a query in bugzilla. But then again, many of the reports currently in bugzilla are duplicates, wasting maintainer's resources. There still seems to be a large waste of resources in the tester/mail-list/bugzilla/maintainer infrastructure. I think that this infrastructure could be much improved saving important and limited maintainer resources. > > You absolutely can not depend on a maintainer reading a post in a > mailinglist, maintainers are made aware of problems via bugzilla so > that issues can be tracked. I see this as a problem with the existing infrastructure. > He asked how to get it fixed.. i gave him > the the answer. I am very concerned that someone running rawhide > regularly since rhl8 hasn't repeatedly run into several of the > inumerably infinite packaging errors resulting in exactly the same > sorts of dependancy problems. This sort of thing is very common with > rawhide and probably the most trivial sort of problem to confirm. > Agreed, but if left unresolved will continue to occur regularly. I think this symptom is a factor in your stated frustration.