Michael A. Peters wrote: > On 11/15/2004 08:45:54 AM, Kim Lux wrote: > >> Ouch: "Basically, what I'm saying is I fail to see where FC stands out >> above other distributions that would make me want to use it. Granted, >> after the general buginess I experienced with FC2, I may be biased, >> but >> the whole point is the fact that I wasn't having similar issues with >> the >> other distributions, so why should I have to put up with them with >> FC?" > > > People who post stuff like that rarely can identify what their issue > was. Last *serious* redhat/fedora problem I can recall was the gcc 2.96 > thing. Oh - and RH8 shipped with a gnome that would go crazy if you > made your panel go vertical or added a vertical drawer. > > 9 time out 10 when I have come across a seriously messed up system, I > find that the user has replaced half of the vendor supplied stuff with > 3rd party (less or no QA) replacements, forced installed stuff opposed > to resolving dependencies, etc. > > And of course - there are always the slashdot trolls - who post just to > get reactions. See bug 123281 about flakey behavior with genuine SCSI drives with mixed audio/data CDs. In addition to the problem listed there, I've had highly variable success with writing CDRs from kernel to kernel. I've got FC3 installed on 2 different machines with completely different hardware (that *ouch* works fine with that other OS and Roxio) -- Plextor CD & Plextor CDR, Toshiba DVD & Teac CDR. I suspect what happened is that IDE has overtaken SCSI so much that not as much genuine SCSI testing occurs among kernel hackers. I know modern IDE is supposed to be SCSI in disguise (i.e., same command set), but apparently there are some real world differences. kernel 2.6 introduced "simplification" of the SCSI/IDE code, but perhaps a little too much got simplified away. The current Nahant beta appears to be based on the work that went into FC3. I'm not a RHEL tester, but I'm hoping RHEL testing exposes a wider range of SCSI devices to the new kernel and shows up errors better than FC2/3 (and kernel 2.5) testing did.