Updated to xorg-x11 6.8.1-10 series this morning. It immediately crashes X with the generic NVidia (nv) driver with the error (IIRC): Fatal Server Error Caught Signal 11 Nothing unusual in the Xorg log that I can tell. Rolling back to the 6.8.1-8 series got me working again. Lesson: Keep those cached updates from yum around... <smile> Don't know if this is bugzilla'd yet - if nobody has by the time I get back from some errands, I'll be glad to. Cheers, Chris -- ====================== When the solution is simple, God is answering. -- Albert Einstein