Hi folks! I decided it's finally time to knock this action item off my todo list... Last cycle, we had a proposed blocker[1] which relied on a footnote to the Beta upgrade criterion which was added way back when we first set up the Editions: "The upgraded system must include all packages that would be present on the system after a default installation from install media, plus any packages the user previously had (minus any obsolete content)"[2] We had a detailed discussion about this at the review meeting[3]. The text does seem to cover the proposed blocker as written, but we didn't think it was really meant to. Per sgallagh, the intent of this footnote was "to guarantee that upgrades from F20 -> F21 would specify a preferred edition and then guarantee that they would get everything from the default install of that Edition plus keep whatever else was on their system (i.e. don't reset them to a default install)". At a subsequent team meeting[4], we talked about it again, and I volunteered to do a rewrite. So, I propose we change it to: "The upgraded system must include any packages that were installed before upgrade, unless the package was obsoleted. The upgrade process may also add packages that, in the new release, are newly included in package groups that were installed before upgrade." The last sentence is included because we do do that on upgrade, these days, so the criterion should allow for it. What do folks think of this wording? Thanks! [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2309697 [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_42_Beta_Release_Criteria#Upgrade_requirements [3] https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/f41-blocker-review/f41-blocker-review.2024-09-09-16.01.log.html [4] https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/quality/quality.2024-09-16-15.00.log.html -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.happyassassin.net -- _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue