On Mon, Nov 08, 2021 at 11:38:27PM +0000, Rick Marshall wrote: > At times we can be managing several hundred desktops. They get > installed over time and with a script that makes sure they > auto-update packages and reboot if there is a kernel update. For > systems that can't be allowed to reboot we get an email advising us. > All of that is good. Okay, this is a tangent, but: have you considered using `dnf offline-update` on the systems where a reboot is okay? That minimizes the chances of problems from updates happening underneath something that expected them to not change. And back off the tangent: if you did that, the version upgrade is usually just a matter of using `dnf system-upgrade` instead, once or twice a year. > I guess what I was really thinking about was a version free > repository. Similar to the no_arch repository. > > This would be for application developers etc who don't need to rely > on distribution version. It could even apply to kernels. I guess I don't get how this would help. It isn't the _number_ that causes incompatibility, but rather accumulated underlying changes. A rolling/perpetual version still has those changes, but unpredictably. > As a package developer my biggest issue has always been keeping > enough versions of Fedora and RH on machines to create versions of > the product. A single release will always need 3-6 OS packages. I'm > not sure this is either productive or efficient. I can't do anything about different versions of RHEL, although there are possible solutions here which generalize. Rather than targetting multiple releases, build against RHEL UBI* and distribute your application as a container image (or Flatpak, if it's a desktop application). Or, if that doesn't work for you, you could just say that you only support the latest Fedora release? I think it's _nicer_ to provide users with options, but that's always a possibility. I'd love to say "we can offer a stable API that doesn't change for years", but... well, that's expensive to do, which is why there is RHEL. :) > PS really appreciate the work you guys do. On behalf of everyone, thanks! * https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/introducing-red-hat-universal-base-image -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
