Re: new criterion proposal: Graphical package managers

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On 2021-11-08 9:31 a.m., Neal Gompa wrote:
On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 9:25 AM Frantisek Zatloukal <fzatlouk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 3:05 PM Kamil Paral <kparal@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"dnf install foo bar"
This is a single operation, comparable to having multiple packages installed via graphical package manager, not scheduling multiple operations at once. It would be the same If a graphical package manager offered to select multiple packages/applications and then start the transaction.

"dnf install foo; dnf install bar"
This is equivalent to:
1. Open Graphical package manager
2. Install foo
3. Close Graphical package manager
4. Open Graphical package manager
5. Install bar
6. Close Graphical package manager

dnfdragora supports doing install + upgrade + removal in the same
transaction. This is equivalent to using "dnf shell" to construct a
transaction in the CLI.

It is technically possible to do this with PackageKit too, but neither
Discover nor Software expose this as far as I know.

Did I miss something in this thread?  Given that the current Gnome graphical package manager requires a full and expensive reboot in between every install for virtually every package for mostly-defective reasons, how would you actually install two packages sequentially like that?  Are you suggesting that the current and IMHO poorly-thought-through package manager be finally replaced?  If so, hoorah!!!

I'm all for stealing the code from tracer or the Ubuntu installer to identify what needs restarting, and maybe putting out a flag to prevent bug submissions while the running packages are not up-to-date.  I believe that would completely eliminate the mandatory reboots, and allow the package manager to move forward properly.
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