Re: Basic criterion proposal: g-i-s shouldn't take 2 minutes to launch

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On 9/17/21 07:29, Lukas Ruzicka wrote:
What if we replaced the "10 seconds" with something like "reasonably fast".
With different machines people could have different expectations, so
somebody could consider 10 seconds a long time, while others could take 20
for normal.
This could make more room for usual experience and expectations.

On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 1:13 PM Ben Cotton <bcotton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Providing for the varied experience and expectations also provides room for more bug reports. Some of those reports will likely be for times we either can't or won't fix. Personally I like having a number. I start noticing a restart taking longer than expected when there are no signs of progress and around 10 seconds have passed. I start thinking "this is taking too long at around 20 seconds, and by 30 seconds I start thinking this needs a bug report.


	Have a Great Day!

	Pat	(tablepc)


On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 3:35 AM Kamil Paral <kparal@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

But I also missed his announcement, and when this discussion was
renewed, I thought the criterion still wasn't finalized and in effect. It
seems I wasn't the only one :o)

I also forgot that I had done it when the discussion picked back up.
But yeah, I'm definitely flexible on the timing. I think the reason we
went with a number was to avoid getting bogged down in what
"reasonable" meant. But the existing criterion has its own ambiguity,
so if we can make it better*, we should.

* But what does "better" mean?! :-D

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