> Now, not to be a stick in the mud, but what other common armhfp hardware > is out there? If the Pi 3B+ isn't "up to the task", perhaps desktop > images that aren't expected work should just be dropped? I'm not sure a > desktop environment running on armhfp in a VM is that common of a use case. There's the RPi4 that will work in 32 bit mode and it is available with 2-8gb of RAM, there's i.MX6 devices with 2+gb of RAM, there's the Jetson TK1 and related devices that have 4Gb of RAM as well as the arm based OLPC devices which have between 1 and 4Gb of RAM depending on the SKU. > We're now looking at publicly releasing a version of Fedora that > apparently just doesn't work when all immediately obvious documentation > implies it should. The RPi3 works with XFCE, Sugar and others quite well, the issue with Workstation on that device is the GPU allocates 256Mb of the available 1Gb to CMA for V-RAM which means in fact you have significantly less than 1Gb of RAM. > This brings up my major frustration with Fedora on ARM since I've > started poking at it. A "regular user" wanting to run Fedora on their Pi > is going to go to the Fedora ARM landing page[0]. That page doesn't make > it immediately clear what works on what hardware. If the user doesn't > give up, they may scroll down and see the Documentation link and follow > it to the Fedora ARM wiki page[1]. Scrolling there they will see > "Supported Hardware and Devices" with "Raspberry Pi" right on top. That > page[2] repeatedly lists Workstation as supported on the 3B+, in the > introduction, under supported hardware, under pre-requestites (where a > video cable is suggested, implying something other than minimal should > work), and as explicitly under supported images. No caveats are given. > > End rant. I really am appreciative of Fedora on ARM. Thanks for listening. Maybe if you'd bought this up in an appropriate place, such as the arm mailing list or the weekly meeting we could address it, or maybe just ask the status and people's thoughts on IRC and see what the status is and whether it makes sense to updating the documentation for these devices and then volunteering to do it for the arm team? Peter _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure