On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 17:11 +0100, Kamil Paral wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 6:44 PM Mark Pearson <markpearson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Release cadence is once. We just can't update our preload images that > > often - there's a long test cycle, and energy certification that goes > > with that image. It's one of the reasons the X1C8 is still shipping with > > Fedora32, and P1G3 and P15 (soon!) will be with F33 for a long time. The > > only reason to update would be a critical bug that couldn't be fixed > > with an update once the platform was received. > > > > If the cadence is once in a long time (related to new hardware > introductions, so possibly once a year or similar), I think the best > approach here is to have releng manually trigger an F33 Workstation Live > image compose using the current updates repo. Assuming it's not a problem > for them. We (the QA) can then trigger an OpenQA test run on it, create the > release validation test matrices for it, and even ask the community in > large to perform some manual tests if they have time. I believe some of us > would devote some time to make sure at least the basics work correctly. I'm > not sure if all the plumbing for this one-off compose is ready (in fedfind, > relval, openqa and wherever else needed), but Adam will know more. Yeah, I don't think that should be really tricky for anyone. I'd suggest we just run it as a post-release nightly compose rather than a candidate and don't give it any kind of label. I don't think it should be hard for releng to run that, and I should be able to run openQA tests and even create a validation event if necessary, I might need to metaphorically whang a few things with a hammer because it won't quite fit the normal flows but it shouldn't be a big deal. Also, I forgot to mention it'll obviously be completely impossible for this to work without Lenovo shipping me some hardware for, uh...testing. Yup. That's definitely non-negotiable. Two of everything. :D -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx