On Fri, 2018-09-21 at 14:56 -0400, pmkellly@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > On 9/21/18 1:30 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2018-09-20 at 22:35 -0400, Harold Dost wrote: > > > Is having this as a test criteria *that* burdensome? > > > > Yes, frankly. Not a lot of testers even keep a DVD-RW drive and media > > around any more. It takes like a half hour just to write all the media > > for testing, then another few hours to run complete installs from them > > all (since optical media are *slow*). > > > > If it's not burdensome, why does no-one except the paid RH folks ever > > seem to run the test? And usually at the last minute, at that? > > > > I've had to buy three DVD-RW drives *solely for the purpose of being > > able to test this* (they keep dying, the things aren't terribly > > reliable). And I keep a spindle of media around, again, solely for the > > purpose of testing this, I don't use them for anything else. (In fact > > I've nearly run out, so if we keep this criteria, I'm gonna have to go > > out and blow some money on some more media I won't ever use for > > anything but testing this). > > > > If people outside of the RH team ever actually ran this test, I'd be > > more in favour of keeping it, but I don't think any of the people > > speaking up about how vital this is to them have ever actually chipped > > in and run the test before. > > > > Well, I know I'm an exception, I only test workstation live, I don't > test every drop, and I know that no one is requiring me to, but I > actually spend money on DVD media to help out with testing. Yes, I know > that someday DVDs will go away and I'll have to figure out this network > install thing, but for right now I use them because it's what I'm > comfortable doing. Thanks for that. > BTW does doing network install mean I have to have a server setup to > serve the installs? I am not sure what you mean by 'network install' exactly. If you mean PXE stuff, you don't need to know that to replace DVDs. You can just replace DVDs with a USB stick. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx