Re: Release criteria proposal: installing / removing software

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On 06/13/2018 09:56 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2018-06-12 at 21:51 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:35:21AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>> "The installed system must be able to install, remove, and install
>>> appropriate updates for software with the default console tool for the
>>> relevant software type (e.g. default console package manager). This
>>> includes downloading of packages to be installed/updated."
>>
>> +1 in theory. The wording is a bit awkward, though -- it sounds like
>> "updates" are things we must be able to install, remove, and install
>> again. Why not just:
>>
>> "The installed system must be able to install, remove, and update
>> software with the default console tool for the relevant software type
>> (e.g. default console package manager). This includes downloading of
>> packages to be installed/updated."
> 
> We already have a thread about exactly this wording problem. :P The
> reason I didn't go for that wording is that it loses the 'appropriate'
> concept, which is important and was specifically included. It appears
> that people are having trouble parsing the intended sense of the
> wording I chose - there are three actions, "install", "remove" and
> "install appropriate updates for", all of which affect "software" - so
> I'm trying to think of another way to put it.

How about:

"The installed system must be able to install and remove packages, and
apply updates to installed packages using the default console tool for
the software involved. It must also support downloading packages for
later manual or automated installation."

Or did I miss the intent?
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