On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 12:41 PM, DJ Delorie <dj@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> U.S. rural areas? :-D > > I'm pretty rural, and even I have good internet. Maybe we need to > redefine "rural" to be independent of physicality :-) Yes it was sort of a ding on the state of affairs in the U.S. rather than rural areas. U.S. bandwidth increases aren't keeping up with the rest of the world, even including urban areas let alone excluding them from the metric. And I'm in a rural area with ~18Mbps usually but it varies below that sometimes by quite a bit, as low as 2Mbps. So if the context is 2Mbps or less, I'd think people would get frustrated fairly quickly with the ~ 1GiB+ downloads Gnome Software does in the background on first boot, with no UI for disabling it. Those without internet wouldn't have this problem of course. But they get hit with a higher percent of unfixed bugs, even known bugs, that just weren't bad enough to be blockers. Another idea might be merging the optical media use case with another one that already exists and has testers who might be in a position to maintain working optical boot: Live respins. http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/live-respins/ This group is making up to date Lives, so there's far less stale stuff with more bug fixes than the official media. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx