Re: [Bug 1338076] kernel crash on boot, just when gdm is supposed to launch

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Peter G.  composed on 2016-05-21 22:01 (UTC-0+00):

The fallback works, sort of. Good enough to install and run
gnome, but somewhat choppily, I think. KDe doesn't run at
all, however, but this might or might not be a related
problem (I suspect it is related, since it worked in F23).

KMS has been working with this hardware since 3-4 years or
more. I recall the hours I spent booting and rebooting with
nomodeset and i915.modeset=1 etc. and the joy I felt when it
finally just worked without further ado. It has been working
for a long, long time ;-) until just now :-O

Neither X server nor Intel driver are static. They keep evolving, and bugs creep in. With fewer and fewer i686 alpha and beta testers reporting problems, and fewer developers to both care about and able to fix them, getting bugs found and fixed takes longer, and longer. It's why i686 trouble is not going to block F24 release, and F24 won't be advertised as an available arch when F24 is released.

Without it, I might not have been able to recognize or view
the kernel crash output this morning h/t

I sure hope we can get this fixed :-) Whatever broke it
happened after f23, since it worked splendidly right up until
about Saturday, when I overwrote f23 with f24 (clean
install).

Did you look at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F24_bugs before choosing to replace your functioning installation with a pre-release? The very first bug there should have given you cause to investigate before disposing of your full functionality. We've been having trouble with 32 bit Intel for several months. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1302071 was filed more than 4 months ago, and is not! marked FIXED. This mailing list has warned of various 32 bit troubles several times since then. I have several F24 installations on Intel i686, probably all of which have been non-functional with some or all kernels since F23 was released. The machine I tested with before my bug 1338076 comment just hours ago works fine with its prior 4.5 kernel, but not with 4.5.4-300. My other machines have been similarly hit and miss.

If you want a working system back soon, I suggest you consider either restoring your backup of F23 if you have one, reinstalling F23 if you don't, or, now that i686 is being squeezed out of Fedora, consider a different (Plasma 5, or lighter weight) distro with less evolutionary activity.

FWIW, I have openSUSE Tumbleweed, in which current kernel is 4.5.4, installed on all the machines on which I have F23, F24 and F25 installed. I don't remember (but don't trust my memory) any of them having similar trouble with post-4.3 kernels, though on them, I'm not using Plasma 5, only KDE3, or TDE <also available for Fedora at https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/FedoraInstall>. I've been finding Plasma 5 borderline usable on (single core) i686 hardware, and older KDEs *far* more responsive.
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