Re: [Bug 1338076] kernel crash on boot, just when gdm is supposed to launch

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Felix Miata wrote:

> Nomodeset has three primary purposes:
> 
> 1-workaround for Anaconda, which can't always work with all 
hardware. It
> causes fallback to a low-performance generic Xorg video 
driver, good only
> to make X work at all when something is broken.

The fallback works, sort of. Good enough to install and run 
gnome, but somewhat choppily, I think. KDe doesn't run at 
all, however, but this might or might not be a related 
problem (I suspect it is related, since it worked in F23).

> 2-required kernel cmdline parameter for old, little-used 
hardware for
> which there is no KMS mode driver support for Xorg.

KMS has been working with this hardware since 3-4 years or 
more. I recall the hours I spent booting and rebooting with 
nomodeset and i915.modeset=1 etc. and the joy I felt when it 
finally just worked without further ado. It has been working 
for a long, long time ;-) until just now :-O

> 3-troubleshooting tool, for collecting logs and 
reconfiguring when crashes
> or other problems prevent operation without it.

Without it, I might not have been able to recognize or view 
the kernel crash output this morning h/t

> Only in case 2 should it be included in a normal Grub menu. 
Unfortunately,
> when needed for case 1, it typically remains included in in 
Grub
> configuration post-installation, which causes grief for 
those who aren't
> aware of its nature and need for removal as a part of 
installation
> cleanup. Anaconda simply doesn't have the sophistication to 
do that kind
> of cleanup.
> 
> With the hardware of this bug's case, not removing it is 
fortunate,
> because of the brokenness that prevents operation at all 
(except possibly
> via remote login, or possibly booting to multi-user.target 
or lower)
> without it.

I sure hope we can get this fixed :-) Whatever broke it 
happened after f23, since it worked splendidly right up until 
about Saturday, when I overwrote f23 with f24 (clean 
install).
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