Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

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On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 10:03:34 -0700
> Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> This is exactly what I *don't* want to happen, and what rather annoys
>> me about this whole business.
>>
>> The blocker process is not a tool for the rest of the project to use
>> as a reminder system. It doesn't work very well for that. The
>> expectation the blocker process is built around is that people should
>> be working towards its requirements *all the time*, ideally well in
>> advance, and the blocker process is there to catch the relatively
>> *few* cases where things break unexpectedly. It's absolutely not
>> supposed to work like this:
>>
>> * QA tests Thing and finds no-one ever even started working on it
>> * QA files bug and marks it blocker
>> * Team Thing starts working on Thing
>>
>> I realize that's an exaggerated example, but it's just to make the
>> point clear. That's not a sane development process.
>
> +1000.
>
> I'd like to propose something somewhat shocking.
>
> How about we get these things done in rawhide, so we are a release
> ahead of things instead of scrambling to get them done at the last
> minute all the time.
>
> Cannot the design team work on F24 wallpaper _right_ now? get it in
> rawhide and test that it's all there and then when we branch it's done,
> they can work on f25 in rawhide and so on.
>
> Just a thought...

For that matter, it still baffles me that there are late changes
(before and even after freeze) that get applied to Rawhide and Fedora
N concurrently. I thought such changes were supposed to go in Rawhide
first. That's what I think needs teeth, is ending this simultaneous
application of changes to Rawhide and current.


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