On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 20:37 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2014-06-16 17:20 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed: > > > On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 19:50 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > >> > It's in the journal, try 'sudo journalctl -b | grep Xorg' or similar. > >> > >> That's going to be real fun to explain to people in help forums in telling > >> them to post the /var/log/Xorg.0.log that's been there ever since Xorg > >> usurped XFree86. > > > I was around when Xorg usurped XFree86...the world didn't really end. > > Stuff changes. > > Nothing to do with my point that explaining how to share X's log will be more > complicated and/or confusing, leading to longer threads in the forums, more > time until help can succeed. Well, no, it was. As you mentioned, there's been a similar changeover in relatively recent memory. We all coped with it well enough. > This will be a mini version of the changing of a > billion scripts and docs from using Yum to using DNF. That's not going to happen, since dnf will be renamed yum when it goes into 'final production'. At least that's the plan as I've heard it all along. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test