On Fri, 2014-06-13 at 17:13 -0400, David wrote: > On 6/13/2014 4:33 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2014-06-13 at 07:34 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > >>> If DNF is going to replace yum, it should have reasonable equivalent > >>> tools. Those working on DNF should know about the yum-utils programs > >>> and the yum plugins we have already. "Community" means different to > >>> different people, Community of users or sysadmins? Users will likely > >>> never use yum-utils. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Shawn > >> > >> User here. > >> yum-utils installed for years. > >> Every home PC user is a sysadmin by default. > > > > It's a bit pointless to say you 'use yum-utils' or not, because > > yum-utils is a big grab bag of a whole bunch of stuff. It'd be most > > useful for people to note which yum-utils they use *precisely* which do > > not yet have a dnf equivalent. > > > > > I *think* what Frank is saying is that *before* Fedora bails on YUM for > dnf there should be similar (better?) tools. That is unless dnf does not > crap out like YUM does from time to time. Or Fedup stops failing for > some users. My 2 cents. What I'm saying is that there really isn't much that links the tools in yum-utils. Some of them are very important. Some of them probably aren't. It would help the dnf devs and others with prioritizing the development of replacements to know which ones are the most important. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test