>From this week onwards, we have agreed to abandon the laboriously hand-edited minutes and per-meeting Wiki pages. From now on, we will simply send out the MeetBot-generated meeting minutes, and link to those from the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings . Future minutes emails will contain the bare text format minutes generated by Meetbot, as seen below. I'd actually quite like to use the HTML format minutes - http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-01-06/fedora-qa.2014-01-06-16.00.html - as they're much easier to read, but anti-HTML-email sentiment is so embedded by now that this is likely impractical. ================================== #fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting ================================== Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:04 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-01-06/fedora-qa.2014-01-06-16.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (adamw, 16:00:11) * Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 16:11:20) * "adamw to send fedup/thinp post-mortem email" - I sent one - https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2013-December/119820.html - but didn't cover the thinp bug, whoops (adamw, 16:13:20) * QA/Join page revision (adamw, 16:20:12) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-January/119890.html (adamw, 16:20:41) * roshi and danofsatx came up with a proposal for a revised QA/Join page (adamw, 16:20:54) * roshi will send out a new draft based on list feedback (adamw, 16:21:18) * general agreement to try and avoid mentioning 'bugzappers' and 'proven testers' directly to avoid confusion (adamw, 16:22:56) * seems like everyone's happy with the current approach to the rewrite, thanks for the work roshi and danofsatx (adamw, 16:24:50) * Meeting minutes (adamw, 16:27:14) * currently we keep meeting minutes in a hand-written format at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings (adamw, 16:30:39) * the wiki meeting pages are usually created before the meeting and in theory can be edited to add something to the agenda (adamw, 16:34:03) * AGREED: from 2014 on, we'll drop the manual handling of meeting minutes and do it all via meetbot (adamw, 16:35:41) * side note: kparal has added the meeting schedule to fedocal for 2014 (adamw, 16:36:41) * fedocal link for QA: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/QA/ (adamw, 16:38:08) * open floor (adamw, 16:40:07) * LINK: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2445 (cmurf, 16:40:13) * LINK: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6868 (cmurf, 16:41:15) * Viking-Ice points out Matthew Miller's mail about plans for 2014, https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-January/193401.html (adamw, 16:43:58) * ACTION: adamw to send a mail to test@ about the ten year t-shirt thing (adamw, 17:00:13) * once again, we all registered concern at the direction of the Fedora.next project and its implications for testing given the apparent broadening of the scope of deliverables without a plan in place for testing (adamw, 17:04:30) Meeting ended at 17:05:52 UTC. Action Items ------------ * adamw to send a mail to test@ about the ten year t-shirt thing Action Items, by person ----------------------- * adamw * adamw to send a mail to test@ about the ten year t-shirt thing * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * adamw (123) * handsome_pirate (70) * cmurf (63) * Viking-Ice (55) * roshi (50) * tflink (40) * jokerdino (23) * kparal (22) * danofsatx (20) * brunowolff (17) * nirik (14) * zodbot (8) * pingou (4) * satellit (4) * jreznik (4) * nb (2) * mkrizek (1) * pwhalen (1) * satellit_e (1) * pschindl (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test