Hi, folks. So this one keeps popping up for individual people, and we keep doing a quick band-aid when anyone needs group membership...but we may as well just bite the bullet and do it properly. Fedora QA has always been pretty informally organized, we've generally not wanted to build a big heavy organizational structure with hierarchies and bits of paper to sign and stuff. One facet of this is that we don't really have an 'official' Fedora QA FAS group. There is a 'qa' group in FAS, but it has very few members, and we haven't ever worked on the assumption that the people in it are the 'real' QA people or anything. For our purposes we don't really have any incredible need for a QA group in FAS, but there are some things in Fedora which require you to be a member of a FAS group besides cla_signed - voting in some elections, for instance, and getting a fedorapeople.org space. It seems unfortunate that QA contributors don't get these things unless they get themselves added to another group. So I'm proposing we do something simple: let's just go ahead and stick everyone who can reasonably be considered a 'QA team member' in the FAS 'qa' group. This wouldn't be hard to do, I can make sure sufficient people within and outside RH have moderator status in the qa group, and then those of us who are mods can just add people appropriately. Anyone who files karma regularly, or validation test results, or posts to test@, or attends QA team meetings, anything like that - let's just stick 'em in QA group, and then for the future we can just say 'moderators can give anyone who's obviously a QA person membership in the QA group at any time, and when someone sends a self-introduction mail and doesn't completely disappear, the QA group mods should stick that person in the group'. How does that sound? Seems like something we can just get done already. Right now me, James Laska, Will Woods and Jesse Keating are the admins of the QA group. This is obviously a bit silly. I'll drop jlaska's, wwoods' and jesses' admin roles, and make some more appropriate people admins and moderators instead. I'll do that right now, since it's clearly the right thing to do... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test