On Mon, 2013-10-07 at 13:41 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Oct 7, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Fri, 2013-10-04 at 09:04 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > >> A wired state icon in the menu bar is not needed if it's available upon making a physical connection, by default, for all users. For Gnome 3.8, I regularly encountered no network connection upon successful install, despite a working wire in the singular ethernet port, because by default "Connect Automatically" is not enabled for wired connections. > >> > >> So if I have to give the system A Captain Obvious Clue, yes I really do need an otherwise useless wired network state icon in the menubar. But better would be no wired network icon, but any user by default has access to the network connection automatically if the wired is in the port. (As a Mac user the idea that a network isn't connected to automatically by default upon physical access to both computer and wire is not merely surprising, it is considered broken.) > > > > Doesn't match my experience at all. We've brought up wired network > > connections by defaults for several releases, now, though it used to > > default to off in non-network installs back around F16 or something. > > Yet several times after F20 alpha live installs I've had to go manually turn on the wired network, and the "Connect Automatically" option was unchecked. I suppose it could be a transient or imaginary problem. If I get something consistent I'll file a bug against network manager. Well, I haven't run many F20 installs, since I've been traveling. If it's really happening, it's definitely not intentional, AFAIK. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin DOT net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
