On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 19:05 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/20/2013 06:49 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > This is an issue that's come up repeatedly in the past and was also came > > up during the talk Tim gave on the blocker process on Friday: the > > feedback from everyone at the meeting (QA people and non-QA people) was > > that the current names were really bad and confusing. So we're > > definitely addressing a need here. > > Confusing for whom ( I dont think these are relevant to anyone else then > those of us that attend the blocker bug meetings ) They absolutely are, because they're what you use to propose blocker bugs. That affects anyone who is testing or developing Fedora. They also affect all developers, because they're the ones getting the bug reports: they need to know what these statuses are and be able to deal with them. > and can you point me > to any talk where this has come up? There've been multiple threads and meeting discussions, I don't have references handy, but I thought you'd remember that too... > Freezebreak really? Nice to have is much easier to understand for non > English speakers. Well, it's three words that you probably know the meaning of, but what they really mean in the Fedora process is not at all obvious: in fact if you just read the words and try to figure out what they mean, you are very likely to get the wrong result, which is one of the problems we're trying to solve. If you see a bug that is proposed as 'nice to have' and then 'rejected', what it sounds like is that someone doesn't want to fix the bug. The words don't explain, at all, that what's being discussed is a freeze break exception. The string 'freezebreak' does. The word is more 'jargon' - it's not really about native English speaker vs. non-native, but whether you're aware that the word 'freeze' has a certain meaning in software development. We thought about that, but the thing is, you kind of _have_ to know that in order to accurately propose or discuss or understand this type of bug. If you don't know what a freeze is, then you kind of can't possibly understand the point of the process. So we thought the word was appropriate to use here. If you don't know what freezebreak means, you can go and ask about it or Google it, and the result you get is very likely to explain to you what's going on: this is not the case for the words 'nice to have'. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
