On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 09:23 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 01/03/2013 08:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Hey, folks. I'm not really sure how to frame it, but the result of all > > my poking about at keyboard layout bugs and related stuff recently is > > that I'm pretty sad at the state of support for > > anything-but-U.S.-English in Fedora 18. > <snip>...</snip> > > > > I don't really know where we need to go with this, exactly, but a few > > questions arise naturally: > > > > 1. In the short term, is the combination of all these factors enough for > > us to want to delay F18 further to try and make things suck less? > > > > 2. If not, do we want to engage in some Messaging around the F18 release > > to emphasize that we know there are all these issues and we'll try to > > smooth things out for F19? > > > > 3. In the longer term, how can we get anaconda, i18n, systemd, GNOME etc > > folks all pointed in the same direction and working so that there's far > > less suckage and far more smooth interaction going on here? Should we > > try and run some sort of session at FUDCon? > > > > Thanks, folks! > > Given that Fesco aggreed upon and thinks releasing F19 with shorter > cycle is a great idea while I along with others in the community are on > the opposite side and think we need longer release cycle. > > Our package collection has been growing larger over the years not > shorter which to me requires more time and resources to manage thus we > longer release cycle not shorter one. > > Based on our sad state in F18 I think we should just cut our losses and > "restart" the release cycle for F18 and use the release cycle Fesco > agreed upon for F19 as in F18 becomes an end-of-May release with an > end-of-February branch date. I really didn't want this to turn into a release philosophy thread, the question was limited strictly to a 'how bad do we really think these keymap issues are' thing. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test