Dne Út 4. prosince 2012 09:39:03, Adam Williamson napsal(a): > On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 11:06 +0100, Karel Volný wrote: > > Dne Po 3. prosince 2012 23:47:14, Adam Williamson napsal(a): > > > This gets into a very general discussion, but there is a fairly solid > > > case to be made that excessively aggressive behaviour on mailing lists > > > doesn't just discourage those it's aimed at, > > > > I wish it had worked ... discouraging developers that do things that users > > do not like would be a good thing ;-) but sometimes I've got the opposite > > feeling - the more criticism, the more "yes, I must be doing that right, > > they burnt Giordano Bruno on the stake for the truth, now they are trying > > to burn me" > That's, er, a) completely unsubstantiated YMMV ... > and b) not what I said. > 'Doesn't just discourage X but Y' means 'it discourages both X and Y'. > It doesn't mean 'it discourages Y but not X'. understood ... I should have made clear that I'm focusing just on the "it discourages/does not discourage X" part regardless of what happens to Y > > > but a substantial number of potential contributors who do not feel > > > comfortable jumping into such an environment. > > > > hm, and would they feel comfortable jumping to an environment where they > > hear "go away we don't want you"? > > > > shouldn't the reaction be more like "please keep your swearing at home" > > than "go away, don't test Fedora"? > > Ideally, for sure. But what if someone refuses to change their > communication style? then the answer should not be in the same (or equally discouraging) style ... had I mentioned already that I like how do _you_ handle the flames? and as for the OP, we may talk about banning (which is a solution that I do not like) or partial list moderation (if there's someone willing to do that ...) - or anything else how to improve the _communication_ but not how to reduce the user/tester/developer base K. -- Karel Volný QE BaseOs/Daemons Team Red Hat Czech, Brno tel. +420 532294274 (RH: +420 532294111 ext. 8262074) xmpp kavol@xxxxxxxxx :: "Never attribute to malice what can :: easily be explained by stupidity." -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
