On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 15:19 -0800, Brian Marshall wrote: > Hi, > > I have a couple issues with the new offline updates feature ("Install Updates & > Restart" in the GNOME Shell menu). > > The first issue: users can no longer review the updates before they install > them. The list of updates is not shown at any step of the update process > anymore for offline updates. > > That seems weird to me, and it's a departure from other Linux distros, as well > as Windows and OS X. You *can* manually look at the list with the PackageKit > GUI or yum itself, but you have to go out of your way to do that - it doesn't > pop up as a notification anymore. > > Are there any plans to let users review these updates, or is that considered > something users shouldn't see anymore? I believe yes, this is just that it hasn't all been hooked up between packagekit-gnome and the offline update feature yet. There's a few relevant bugs - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=863592 , https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=687149 , https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=683745 are entry points, I think. > The second issue: forcing people to restart to install updates will lead to > some users (like me) putting off those updates because they don't want to > restart, which is insecure. > > Even though with the way Linux file handles work, running applications wouldn't > automatically get security updates anyway, at least newly launched or restarted > applications would. Logging out would work for user applications as well. Both > of those are less intrusive than a restart. > > I know you can go to Software -> Check for Updates and bypass offline updates > entirely, but that's a lot less convenient than waiting for a "software updates > are available" notification and clicking the button there. > > Was it deemed that increased update procrastination from users is still a > worthy trade-off? Note that you're not 'forced' to restart to install updates - you can still do them online with yum. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test