On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 17:23 +0100, Karel Volný wrote: > Dne Ne 2. prosince 2012 20:15:18, Adam Williamson napsal(a): > > On Sat, 2012-12-01 at 18:54 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, drago01 <drago01@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Pretty good summary why I think this screen is just a mess > > > from an UI pov. > > > > > > Agree it´s a disaster. And if you´re a coder and you can´t take > > > negative feedback from users, "please, go do something else". *to > > > paraphrase a poster higher in this thread* ;-) > > > > There is a large difference between negative (constructive) feedback and > > a flamethrower. > > well, while there really exists such a difference, I do not think it justifies > sending people away from Fedora ... since when we have so many users that we > have to repulse them? > > isn't there a connection between number of users and number of developers? - > how much people we can lose before the distro dies? > > and even a "flamethrower" is a valid feedback - the developers can see that > they did something really wrong so that someone (who isn't on drugs, I > suppose) had the urge to write such a reaction ... but that would really need > to do something about the ivory towers ... This gets into a very general discussion, but there is a fairly solid case to be made that excessively aggressive behaviour on mailing lists doesn't just discourage those it's aimed at, but a substantial number of potential contributors who do not feel comfortable jumping into such an environment. To put it simply: if you see a pit full of toothy monsters firing flamethrowers at each other, and someone says 'to contribute, just jump in there, bare your teeth, grab a flamethrower, and join in!', it takes a certain type of person with a certain mentality to jump in. It is noticeable that certain Fedora mailing lists seem to be populated by rather a lot of tooth-baring, flamethrower-totin' types, and few others. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
