F18 Beta Blocker Bug Review #8 Minutes

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#fedora-qa: f18beta-blocker-review-8
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Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-11-14/f18beta-blocker-review-8.2012-11-14-17.00.html
Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-11-14/f18beta-blocker-review-8.2012-11-14-17.00.txt
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-11-14/f18beta-blocker-review-8.2012-11-14-17.00.log.html


Meeting summary
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* Roll Call  (tflink, 17:00:23)

* Introduction  (tflink, 17:09:14)
  * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
    nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
    the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
    bugs.  (tflink, 17:09:20)
  * We'll be following the process outlined at:  (tflink, 17:09:29)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
    (tflink, 17:09:30)
  * The bugs up for review today are available at:  (tflink, 17:09:37)
  * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current   (tflink,
    17:09:37)
  * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at:  (tflink,
    17:09:42)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 17:09:43)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 17:09:43)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 17:09:43)
  * 6 Proposed Blockers  (tflink, 17:10:32)
  * 7 Accepted Blockers  (tflink, 17:10:32)
  * 6 Proposed NTH  (tflink, 17:10:33)
  * 15 Accepted NTH  (tflink, 17:10:33)

* (875393) TypeError: _refresh_device_cfg() takes exactly 3 arguments (2
  given)  (tflink, 17:11:17)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875393   (tflink,
    17:11:20)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, VERIFIED  (tflink, 17:11:23)
  * AGREED: 875393 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha
    release criterion for machines without a working network connection
    at boot time: "The installer must boot and run on all primary
    architectures, with all system firmware types that are common on
    those architectures ..."  (tflink, 17:16:19)

* (876180) KeyError: None  (tflink, 17:16:28)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876180   (tflink,
    17:16:28)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 17:16:28)
  * AGREED: 876180 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This doesn't clearly
    hit any release criteria for F18 beta but fixing installer crashes
    is preferred - a tested fix would be considered past freeze
    (tflink, 17:26:55)

* (876366) New kernel copies its args from the Upgrade System entry
  (tflink, 17:27:04)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876366   (tflink,
    17:27:04)
  * Proposed Blocker, fedup-dracut, NEW  (tflink, 17:27:04)
  * AGREED: 876366 - AcceptedBlocker - This is relatively common and not
    difficult to reproduce - violates the following F18 beta release
    criterion: "... it must be possible to successfully complete an
    upgrade from a fully updated installation of the previous stable
    Fedora release with that package set installed, using any officially
    recommended upgrade mechanisms. The upgraded system must meet all
    release criteria."  (tflink, 17:34:24)

* (876319) Unable to use analog speakers with Asus Xonar DX  (tflink,
  17:34:32)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876319   (tflink,
    17:34:32)
  * Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW  (tflink, 17:34:32)
  * AGREED: 876319 - RejectedBlocker, RejectedNTH - This doesn't violate
    any of the F18 beta release criterion and could be fixed by an
    update.  (tflink, 17:37:12)

* (876655) Lorax does not support building initramfs for fedup  (tflink,
  17:38:36)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876655   (tflink,
    17:38:36)
  * Proposed Blocker, lorax, NEW  (tflink, 17:38:36)
  * AGREED: 876655 - AcceptedBlocker - This prevents fedup from doing
    network upgrades and violates the following F18 beta release
    criterion: "... it must be possible to successfully complete an
    upgrade from a fully updated installation of the previous stable
    Fedora release with that package set installed, using any officially
    recommended upgrade mechanisms. The upgraded system must meet all
    release criteria."  (tflink, 17:44:38)

* (875474) Regression: no graphical display after plymouth update
  (tflink, 17:48:21)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875474   (tflink,
    17:48:21)
  * Proposed Blocker, plymouth, NEW  (tflink, 17:48:21)
  * AGREED: 875474 - We need more information on whether or not
    rebuilding the initramfs fixes the issue described here before
    deciding on blocker status  (tflink, 18:03:30)

* (874265) Installation Options screen is too wide for 1024x768 display
  in German  (tflink, 18:07:05)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=874265   (tflink,
    18:07:08)
  * Proposed NTH, anaconda, VERIFIED  (tflink, 18:07:10)
  * AGREED: 874265 - AcceptedNTH - This is a minor translation and
    display issue and leads to better usability  - a tested fix would be
    considered past freeze  (tflink, 18:11:04)

* (874753) Can't change keyboard layout in GDM by default  (tflink,
  18:11:19)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=874753   (tflink,
    18:11:19)
  * Proposed NTH, control-center, NEW  (tflink, 18:11:19)
  * we were unable to come to a conclusion on this bug - stuck at +2/-2
    NTH. Will revisit when more people are present  (tflink, 18:35:52)

* (874761) "Log Out" and "Switch User" unavailable after creating second
  user account in "User Accounts"  (tflink, 18:36:01)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=874761   (tflink,
    18:36:04)
  * Proposed NTH, gnome-shell, NEW  (tflink, 18:36:07)
  * AGREED: 874761 - RejectedNTH - This doesn't hit any common use cases
    for live images, has a relatively simple workaround and could be
    fixed with an update - rejected as NTH for F18 beta.  (tflink,
    18:45:26)

* (876258) mate files in updates-testing need to be NTH - MATE install
  does not work in DVD  (tflink, 18:47:31)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876258   (tflink,
    18:47:34)
  * Proposed NTH, mate-desktop, NEW  (tflink, 18:47:37)
  * AGREED: 876258 - RejectedNTH - MATE is not on the DVD and fixed
    packages are available in network repos.  (tflink, 18:51:39)

* (847479) Kernel 3.5.0-2 and 3.5.1-1 nouveau driver causes Xorg to abrt
  after resume from RAM  (tflink, 18:51:46)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=847479   (tflink,
    18:51:49)
  * Proposed NTH, xorg-x11-drv-nouveau, NEW  (tflink, 18:51:52)
  * AGREED: 847479 - RejectedNTH - It isn't clear that this affects F18,
    is unlikely to affect live images and could be fixed with an update
    (tflink, 18:55:44)

* (873762) [zh_CN] [zh_TW] installer hangs in Installation Summary when
  keyboard spoke clicked  (tflink, 18:59:08)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873762   (tflink,
    18:59:11)
  * Accepted Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA  (tflink, 18:59:13)
  * fix is available, waiting for new livecds for testing  (tflink,
    19:01:04)
  * should be testable in the next TC/RC  (tflink, 19:01:14)
  * seems to be fixed on netinstall but needs testing on livecds
    (tflink, 19:02:30)

* (875364) Both 18 Beta TC8 install DVDs are > 4.7 GB  (tflink,
  19:03:00)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875364   (tflink,
    19:03:00)
  * Accepted Blocker, distribution, NEW  (tflink, 19:03:00)
  * some movement on this, may be fixed  (tflink, 19:03:43)
  * new smoke DVD or TC/RC needed to test  (tflink, 19:03:59)

* (872047) fedup-dracut builds do not exist in F18  (tflink, 19:06:13)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=872047   (tflink,
    19:06:13)
  * Accepted Blocker, fedup-dracut, ON_QA  (tflink, 19:06:13)
  * this is being worked on indirectly, waiting for another build before
    asking for karma to push fedup-dracut to stable  (tflink, 19:07:55)
  * should have a new build in the next day or so that can be pushed to
    stable  (tflink, 19:08:18)

* (873459) Upgraded system does not reboot if a kernel upgrade is part
  of the upgrade  (tflink, 19:08:28)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873459   (tflink,
    19:08:31)
  * Accepted Blocker, fedup-dracut, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 19:08:34)
  * This is being worked on, most of the fixes for this are in upstream
    git  (tflink, 19:08:45)
  * waiting on one last patch before new packages are built  (tflink,
    19:08:56)
  * should see new packages in the next day or so  (tflink, 19:09:04)

* (873576) mdmonitor-takeover.service not started on boot because lorax
  disables it, results in parted hanging trying to inspect newly-created
  Intel fwraid RAID-1 array  (tflink, 19:09:36)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873576   (tflink,
    19:09:39)
  * Accepted Blocker, lorax, NEW  (tflink, 19:09:41)
  * this bug is now mostly triaged  (tflink, 19:10:54)
  * test boot.iso is available for testing  (tflink, 19:11:01)

* (875380) fileconflicts failure on 18 Beta TC8 DVDs (texlive)  (tflink,
  19:13:08)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875380   (tflink,
    19:13:08)
  * Accepted Blocker, texlive, NEW  (tflink, 19:13:08)
  * the packages in question should be removed now  (tflink, 19:14:32)
  * this will need re-testing after the next TC/RC  (tflink, 19:14:44)

* Open Floor  (tflink, 19:16:03)
  * next blocker review meeting will be 2012-11-21 @ 17:00 UTC  (tflink,
    19:16:44)

Meeting ended at 19:19:29 UTC.




Action Items
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