On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, 2012-10-26 at 00:12 +0200, drago01 wrote: > >> > Also, this doesn't catch the case of someone who's never used LVM, does >> > an install of Fedora, notices that it uses LVM, and gets interested >> > about it and finds out the neat stuff it can do. That's not a terribly >> > unusual use case for Linux distros in general, is it? We all start out >> > as newbies after all...I often find out about cool stuff 'by accident' >> > in this way, just by stumbling across it. >> >> He might also find find out that it is useless for him and that he >> cannot (easily) remove it without reinstalling. I am not saying LVM >> does not have use cases where it makes sense. I just don't think it >> makes sense as a default. > > I guess I just don't really get this. Maybe it comes from the fact that > I know my computer is doing all sorts of stuff all the time that I don't > 'need' it to do. But I don't really feel compelled to go and build a > kernel with all the drivers I don't use taken out, and hack up udev not > to probe things I don't care about, and and and... My point is that there is a cost of adding it. While the benefit for the majority of users is almost zero (messing with the system partitions is not a thing lots of people do after installation). We are pretty much the only distro that used it by default. > if something's happening that isn't benefiting me right at this second I > don't feel some kind of compulsion to RIP IT OUT RIP OUT THE EVIL NOW. That wasn't my point ... > So someone finds their system is using LVM and they don't feel like > taking advantage of any of LVM's specific benefits right now. Fine. What > have they lost? See above (and the other post). > Why would you be so terribly angry that you can't > 'remove it'? I mean, ext4 probably has benefits I'm not using right now, > but I'm not feeling compelled to switch my disks to something less > capable... Because you don't gain much by using something "less capable". > The performance point is likely worth bringing up in the bug, though. > (Of course, invoking Lennart in any debate can have its own pitfalls :>) Done. -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test