> On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 06:45 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: > > > > > > When I click on the User Name in the right corner the options > > > are.... > > > Notifications, System Settings, Lock, and Power Off. Am I > > > missing > > > something? > > > > This is a new feature from the GNOME team (i.e. it's intended). > > They believe there are no use cases for logging out, if you have > > just a single user. > > Just read the thread up to current.... Am I the only one who thinks > this > conversation is insane? > > So now there will be logic to carefully look at whether there is more > than one user account, then look to see if more than one session > installed. Then the startx case may or may not (I'd bet not) be > dealt > with. And sometimes when you run updates you get a message about > needing to log off and back on and sometimes you are told to reboot > so I > suppose that needs to also be accounted for.. or just always force > reboots since apparently Windows is now our lodestar. > > All these bugs to deal with just to remove a menu option that wasn't > hurting anyone. So I take it all other problems are now solved and > we > are free to waste time twisting knobs just for the heck of it now? > > People expect to be log in and then log out of machines, online > services, pretty much everywhere. Where is the study showing this is > confusing the always mythical hordes of AOLers who are supposed to be > clammoring to welcome to the Penguin's icy embrace if we could only > dumb > it down just one notch below a Mac? Where? Anyone? Beuller? > > Maybe, just maybe, I want to log out when I'm not using the machine > because I have good security habits. A modern machine has good > enough > power management that powering down completely is usually overkill, > or > have you guys just woke up from a coma and think it is still the > 1990's? > Any of you geniuses thought about that use case? Haven't security > people been hammering that one into people's thick skulls since long > before Linus was acrolling aaaaas and bbbbs across a screen and > getting > grandiose notions of world domination? Yes they have. And this > change > hoses all that effort. > > There is exactly one use case where eliminating the logout option > almost > makes sense, the case where a machine is set to automatically login > an > account on boot. But that still doesn't cover every possibility > without > a lot of extra effort. > > Now you kids get the heck off my lawn and go reread "baggy pantsing" > in > the Jargon File. I have to say I agree with you. They create too much complexity (which will be broken by definition) to create a tiny simplification. This is an example of overkill. But I also have to say that GNOME mailing list/bugzilla/IRC is a much better place to direct your feedback, because just a few members of the GNOME team might read it here, and even that's not granted. -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
