On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 23:08 +0200, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > On 13.09.2012 22:02, David Lehman wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 15:00 +0200, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > >> Hey! > >> > >> I've been playing with new Anaconda since Alpha RC2 and I have some > >> doubts about whole concept of this sub pages with configuration options > >> and jumping around them. > > You can indulge your doubts or you can adapt. It's up to you. I > > recommend the latter. > > > >> Why, the hell user has to pres BACK each time he made some decision or > >> configuration change? Personally I prefer pressing NEXT because this > >> reminds me what the goal is (working system installation) and that I'm > >> going to reach it sooner or later. > >> > >> It looks like some Fedora designers prefer to step backward then going > >> forward to achieve what the installer was created for: Working Fedora > >> system installation. > > It's just a different model. Instead a long linear progression in which > > every user must visit every page/step, you only visit those sections > > that require your attention. It will save time for most users. > > > > You will be pleased to find (in the Beta) that we have changed the > > wording of some of the buttons to improve clarity. > > > >> Please, don't tell me that this is because configuration could be done > >> in parallel and it's for my convenience and to give me the choice which > >> aspect of installation I prefer to configure first. Maybe it's good for > >> advanced users but for dumb average computer guy this introduced lot of > >> instability and is not intuitive. > > If by "intuitive" you mean "the same as the old interface" then I must > > agree. Otherwise, I think you are just trying to hold on to what you > > know. > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. I know that new anaconda is different than old > one. I really have nothing against changes and I think I'll quickly > adapt. My only concern is new, and in my opinion not so intuitive, > naming and proceeding convention by which Fedora 18 is installed. > > In my typical case, I had to touch every single spoke in the new > installer, so I gained nothing. Only English speaking people can forget > about configuring language and keyboard layout. Taking number of > different time zones in US, we'll quickly find that majority of people > will need to change this too. No need to say about disk layout which is > more or less customized or at last reviewed by everyone (excluding > unattended installations). > > Silently allowing people to leave root password not set is also bad idea > in my opinion. I know what root account is and from previous Fedora > releases I also know that I either must have a root account or user in > admin group. But in new installer this is not so clear until firstboot > is run (where, there is no correspondence to choices from anaconda). > There is no clear explanation why should I leave root empty and that > I'll be asked for adding user to admin group later. > > Once again, thanks for all great work, you and other anaconda devels > have done. I'll try to accept as much new features as I can. Thanks. This is only alpha, and you will already notice significant improvements in the first Beta trees. We still have lots of refinements to make, but things are progressing rapidly. David -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test