Re: Problems with live install support for F18 Alpha

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On 2012-08-23 22:12, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
On 08/24/2012 12:57 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
Hey, folks - just wanted to make sure anyone who's interested is in the loop. The anaconda team has been working to try and get live installation working with the newUI changes, but right now they don't think it'll be possible to have it ready in time for F18 Alpha, at least without slipping again. They don't think it can be done by next Wednesday.

So, if we wanted to release the Alpha on current schedule (just 1 week slip), it'd have to be with no live images, or with non-installable live images. If we want installable live images for Alpha, we'd have to slip at least another week.

That feels like a 'policy' decision to me, so I've filed a ticket with FESCo to discuss it at their next meeting:

So you just went ahead and filed a ticket *before* we could decide
this any other feelings you have that you just go ahead with.

Any Fedora contributor can raise an issue to the attention of FESCo. It does not need to be done with any more 'official' standing than that, or to be done on behalf of a Fedora group, project or SIG. There's nothing inappropriate about me, as an individual Fedora contributor, asking FESCo to take a look at this issue. I did not have any intention to suggest, nor do I think I did suggest, that I was speaking on behalf of anyone but myself. I notified this list about the ticket since it seemed obvious that people subscribed to the list would have an interest in it.

Maybe we
should just start dropping installation test cases and other criteria
since it is pretty apparent that Anaconda wont meet them in time no
wait they already tried to do that...

I tried to present every possible course of action in response to the issue for discussion in the ticket. I couldn't dictate any particular outcome of FESCo's discussion in any case, but insofar as I could suggest possible actions they might take, I tried to present all that are vaguely feasible. I certainly included the option of delaying the F18 release. I did not in any way attempt to influence them in the direction of waiving criteria in order to follow the schedule.

This is yet another warning sign that the *new* installer is not in
ready enough shape for F18 and should be delayed to F19...

That's certainly one thing to think about, yes. I'm sure the wider topic will come up in the discussion.
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