On 07/10/2012 10:48 AM, Matteo Settenvini wrote: > If we really are talking about "newbies" here, keep in mind that people > are *scared* of too much options. If you ask them if they want KDE, > GNOME, XFCE, ... they will just stare blindly before going back "in the > system were you didn't need to know all that technical stuff". > > After all, the very concept of a Desktop Environment is alien to Windows > users. They have just one interface, and that's it. Else, different > distros with different DEs, as someone pointed out, might make more > sense. I just realized that really don't care that much about this issue. I understand the need/desire to "dumb down" the install process. Just decide on a list of reasonable packages to install, maybe do away with the "Customize Now" option all together. Also, may as well drop support for adding additional repos during the install process. In the scheme of things, it doesn't increase the time needed to get the system to where you want it. For example, the network download time for updates will be the same no matter when you do the update. And those coming from the Windows side will be pleasantly surprised that a new install doesn't have the "update--reboot---update---reboot---update....." cycle. For one off installs it just means a few more steps. The more experienced users know how to do it. And, the novice probably will eventually figure it out. If you do many installs you have kickstart where you can do anything you want. I'm sure that plenty of discussion and consideration has gone on behind the scenes to reach this point. There is one thing I do wonder about...and will have to do an install to check it....but I wonder if there isn't a better way to inform users of where to get post install support. I think that the default home page for firefox is http://start.fedoraproject.org/ and I know you can click on "Get Help" and then read the next page and find item #3. I just wonder if there isn't a better way to inform new users of their "support" options. But that is a whole other discussion. -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century. -- Dame Edna Everage -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test