On 07/07/12 03:15 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 07/06/2012 07:10 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:
I attempted installation using Fedora-20120703-x86_64-916dfe7-netinst.iso and
found that it only allows choosing one desktop. I normally install both Gnome
and KDE at this point and asked about it on #anaconda. Dlehman it was not
planned to support that, and regarding installing other desktops afterwards and
choosing between them at the login prompt, he said that wasn't up to them, but
personally he frowned on that practice.
I agree with David the installer should not support that and also frown upon that practice.
Exactly what is so bad with "that practice" (of installing both desktops) as to "frown upon it"?
I am a KDE user and yet I still install Gnome on my machine. Exactly what crime do I commit?
I also think that once the novice end user has choose in his DE in the installer he should only be
presented with packages/applications targeted specifically for that desktop environment if he should
be presented with options to install additional packages et al...
If it's not possible to have more than one desktop installed, it makes changing
desktops much harder (clean install?) and someone who doesn't like Gnome Shell,
for example, may well decide to change distros rather than try a different
desktop. Personally, I use Gnome, but install KDE just to have the KDE packages
available while using Gnome. Would this become impossible?
I dont think this argument holds much water.
I am another _real_ data point showing that Fedora users actually do that (that = install both
desktops to have access to packages from both of them).
Novice end users would be more likely to download an alternative ( encase of an live cd/usb ) from
the same distribution and try it out since they are already familiar with the the process of
downloading and ( or re)installing the OS and experience users that want to run multiple DE's can
already install another one once they have successfully finished installing the distribution.
This is once again an imaginary, or made-up user, so that you can support your arguments and ignore
real Fedora users. How is it that this practice of making up users to support cases for writing
software for idiots has spread so much lately? Write software for your users and not imaginary
"idiots", please!
"Applications programming is a race between software engineers, who strive to produce idiot-proof
programs, and the universe which strives to produce bigger idiots. So far the Universe is winning."
Do you really strive to produce more and better idiots?
Dariusz
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