Was replying to the quote below, with some additional responses now. Dan -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of John Morris Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 7:19 PM To: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases Subject: Re: F17 Beta DVD install options On the other hand, has there ever been a real case found in the wild of an infestation that was so good at covering its tracks? >Yes, hacker defender on windows, suckit root kit on Linux although not as good at covering its tracks. The security problems I saw in the past were the crudest script kiddies and I haven't even seen one of those attacks succeed since the 20th Century even on erratically updated machines. There aren't a lot of exploits against Linux to begin with, how many are going for deep penetration that aren't targeted hits by intelligence agencies? If the NSA wants to look at your or my machine they will and we will almost certainly never have a clue they were there. >Basically agreeing with the NSA comment here. The NSA, FBI and DOJ do what they want. -----Original Message----- From: test-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:test-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adam Williamson Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:07 AM To: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases Subject: RE: F17 Beta DVD install options On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 00:27 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote: > If the NSA wants to look at your machine, they don't need your root password. Erm...I didn't say anything about the NSA. I'm not sure where you're getting that idea. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
