Re: F17 Beta DVD install options

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On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 19:25 -0500, John Morris wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 18:13 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> > Not all hacks involve the attacker posting some kind of 'HAHA U HAZ BEEN
> > HACKED' notice to let you know about it. Those are the _nice_ hackers.
> 
> Well they usually DO something with a machine they have 0wn3ed.  

Like, rifle through the data for anything useful? Keep it backdoored for
future use? Things like that...

> No spam
> spewing forth, no probes against other hosts, etc.   

Doesn't mean a whole lot...see above.

> And rpm -Va doesn't
> show anything nasty in the packages that would give an intruder an in.

If someone's owned the machine, they can make rpm -Va say whatever they
like.

> Is all that enough to be 100% sure?  Nah.  On the other hand if I were
> the sort of paranoid who spent a lot of time with those sort of thoughts
> I'd be running OpenBSD.

Well, sure, there's a line to be drawn somewhere. But even if you're not
a security paranoiac, it's very important to know there's a huge world
of difference between "I'm not aware my machine has been hacked" and
"I'm aware my machine has not been hacked"...
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Adam Williamson
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