On 04/15/2012 02:12 PM, stan wrote:http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/attachments/20120415/a0f1597e/attachment-0001.pngOn Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:32:27 -0400 Jonathan Kamens <jik@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:In particular, I would like to be able to control things at this level:came through blank here I understand what you are saying, but you're missing the point. It should not be this hard to access detailed sound settings. If Fedora is going to use pulseaudio, then pulseaudio needs to provide access to these settings.Except (a) the alsamixer curses interface is hardly one that's easy for random users to find, and (b) even in alsamixer, I have to hit F6 and select my sound card before I see the level of granularity shown above.Use alsamixer -c <card number here, start from 0> You can find card numbers with aplay -l Once in alsamixer, F3 is playback, F4 is record, F5 is combined. For really detailed settings, install alsa-utils and use amixer. These are not esoteric settings that only audiophiles use. I have to tweak them regularly to get my speakers, headset, and microphone to play nicely together, due to another bug, i.e., that Fedora doesn't seem to remember my settings between logins / reboots. But even if that bug weren't present and the settings were remembered, I would still need to tweak them at least once to set them properly the first time, and right now there's no way to do that through a GUI, whereas there was before when gmixer was supported. That's simply an unacceptable loss in basic functionality, which has been totally lost for at least two major releases now. I love a lot of things about Fedora, but one of the things I absolutely hate is its penchant for ripping out things that work and replacing them with things that don't have nearly the same functionality, perhaps with an amorphous functionality to restore the missing functionality at some time in the indeterminate future. jik |
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