In my most recent efforts, I added noapci to the kernel command line. In the case of F17, the last line I could read before catatonia included "unpacking initramfs". F16 was similar, but it was to fast for me to read well. Here are the grub stanzas: title Install Fedora17 from iso root (hd0,2) pause have rooted (hd0,2) find /isolinux17/vmlinuz pause have finded kernel /isolinux17/vmlinuz askmethod noacpi pause have kerneled find /isolinux17/initrd.img pause have finded initrd /isolinux17/initrd.img pause have initrded title Install Fedora16 from iso root (hd0,2) pause have rooted (hd0,2) find /isolinux16/vmlinuz pause have finded kernel /isolinux16/vmlinuz askmethod noacpi pause have kerneled find /isolinux16/initrd.img pause have finded initrd /isolinux16/initrd.img pause have initrded In each case, all the pauses happened. -- Michael hennebry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "On Monday, I'm gonna have to tell my kindergarten class, whom I teach not to run with scissors, that my fiance ran me through with a broadsword." -- Lily -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test